From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Thu Sep 30 08:28:15 1993 Received: from BULLDOG.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:32:25 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:32:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199309301632.AA07387@bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8377; Thu, 30 Sep 93 12:30:29 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 7839; Thu, 30 Sep 93 12:31:24 EDT Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:28:15 EDT Reply-To: Jorge LLambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge LLambias Subject: Re: Eaton: You asked for it ... X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: > "deserving" sounds a lot like "just" and "fair", which we often debated > adding a gismu for, but then decided that there were probably many concepts > embedded in the word. I think that tyhe meaning associated with most usage of > "deserving" can be built from "mapti" fits/is appropriate to, but I'll let > someone else actually propose a lujvo or two (and place structure). Maybe > cnemu mapti, in the sense that a reward need not necessarily be good, nor > are deserving people always deserving of reward rather than punishment. > > lojbab > I don't so much want a word for "deserve", as one to serve as a tertanru for many lujvo (usually ending in -able in English) like "readable", "admirable", "credible", "trustable", "commendable", "lovable", "forgetable" "forgivable", "remarcable", "believable", "unusable", "considerable", "laughable", "attendible", "regretable", etc, etc. Some can be approximated with -xau or -ka'e, but not always. {mapti} looks like a good one for the concept. Pity it doesn't have a vowel-ending rafsi. I suppose it is out of the question that it steal "mai" from {marji} (which has also "maj"), or give "mat" to {masti} in exchange for "ma'i"? Jorge