From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Fri Sep 3 15:06:01 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 3 Sep 1993 09:08:34 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 3 Sep 1993 09:08:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199309031308.AA03077@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8050; Fri, 03 Sep 93 09:06:53 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 2632; Fri, 03 Sep 93 09:09:42 EDT Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 14:06:01 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK Sender: Lojban list From: Mr Andrew Rosta Subject: TECH: Mark Shoulson waiting for a taxi X-To: lojban@cuvma.BITNET To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: If I remember right (probably not), a (long) while back Mark wrote about waiting for a taxi - any taxi - to come along. Since the taxi is non-specific, this rules out use of the le-series - le karcrtaksi, lei karcrtaksi. But "lo karcrtaksi" doesn't seem quite right, if it means "there is some taxi such that M.S. was waiting for it" - it suggests that a taxi for which Mark was not waiting could have come along. And of course he wasn't waiting for every taxi, either (or maybe he was?). My hazy recollection is that Mark used "loi karcrtaksi" (the "loi" not the fukpi zei valsi) - he was waiting for some manifestation of the mass of all X such that X is a taxi. If this works, it is useful for things like I want/seek a book (to prop open the door) mi sisku loi cukta I want/seek a book (a particular one I'm halfway through reading) mi sisku le cukta Is this right? I know it was discussed earlier in the year by Iain et al., but that discussion seems to have left scarcely any trace in my memory. ----------------- And