From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Wed Sep 8 07:08:32 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 11:12:22 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 11:12:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199309081512.AA06483@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7214; Wed, 08 Sep 93 11:10:41 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 1665; Wed, 08 Sep 93 11:13:31 EDT Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 11:08:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Greek and Latin name list X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: ucleaar's message of Wed, 8 Sep 1993 15:40:25 +0100 Status: RO X-Status: It looks like Matthew's getting the hang of this too! Yes, And, {*neimz} is an invalid delimiter because of the impermissible medial. However, not *all* of the names that Matthew found are actually invalid. {atlas}, {glaukos}, and {platon} are all ok, because there the {la} is preceded by a consonant, preventing it from breaking up. I'm also not 100% sure that {lau} is an invalidating syllable, since it can't fall apart into {la+u} ({lai}, of course, is invalidating). But there's hope. Thanks to some help from Kelley Salsbery, I've managed to get onto MediaMOO and start programming things to improve the lojban room. I have code now that soups up "posing" (doing things like "Mark waves hello.") so that the automatically-prepended name now uses la'o .cmen. .cmen. by default, or you can make your own true cmene either by setting the property on yourself or registering with the room via a special command (in which case it uses la cmene). I am working on improvements to the latter code that will enable it to detect and reject invalid cmene. It seems to be pretty close to correct now. We haven't yet installed the code in the lojban room itself, but it's in another room. The detector is really a big regular expression; I suppose I should code one in portable code (maybe UNIX or C) and provide it as a service for people like Nick! :) Shoulsonianly? Awww, I'm flattered. ~mark