Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 3 Sep 1993 11:59:25 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 3 Sep 1993 11:59:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199309031559.AA06068@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9073; Fri, 03 Sep 93 11:57:35 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 4553; Fri, 03 Sep 93 11:59:47 EDT Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 11:56:40 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: TECH: To become or not to become X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Fri Sep 3 07:56:40 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET la i,n cusku di'e > The problem comes > when the "becoming" is a long drawn out process. > > le pu'u co'a makcu > Growing up > > This is OK, and we can even emphasise the time span with > {ze'u}, but we've been talking (recently) about {co'a} > and {co'u} as if they were point events. Just a comment on this. The right place for {ze'u}, I think, would be: le ze'u pu'u co'a makcu because {le pu'u ze'u co'a makcu} is the process of starting a long maturity. I think you are right that {co'a} and {co'u} need not be point events, but it is not easy to give them a ZEhA interval directly, because ZEhAs don't apply to the phase but to the event proper. Is there any chance of expanding the grammar to allow a ZEhA after a ZAhO, for this purpose? co'o mi'e xorxes