Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 1 Sep 1993 12:56:16 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 1 Sep 1993 12:56:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199309011656.AA00803@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8233; Wed, 01 Sep 93 12:54:31 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8838; Wed, 01 Sep 93 12:54:48 EDT Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 17:51:52 +0100 Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: Event contours and ZAhO tcita To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Wed Sep 1 18:51:52 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET .ue .ui .u'a mi tugni la'o gy jimc gy di'e +++++++++> (bridi) ZAhO (sumti) means (bridi) is in the (ZAhO) phase of process (sumti) whereas ZAhO (bridi) (used as a tense) means (bridi) is in the (ZAhO) phase of (itself as an extended process) where the word "means" includes caveats above about the focus of assertion. In the second version the main bridi (considered extendedly) is the process which has phases, whereas in the first version some other sumti is the process that has phases. >++++++++++++ Excellent way of putting it. ++++++++++++> smuci x1 is a spoon for use x2 made of x3# (with intended content x2, as with soup -- or should x2 be "event of (who?) eating soup"?) >++++++++++ I think x2 should be contents rather than an activity, as with other containers. Colin Glossary: ue surprise ui happiness u'a gain tugni x1 (person) agrees with person(s)/position/side x2 that x3 (du'u) is true about matter x4