Message-Id: <MAILQUEUE2-102.931008211140.480@hylkn1.Helsinki.FI>
Date:         Fri, 8 Oct 1993 15:11:10 EDT
Reply-To: Jorge LLambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
Sender: vilva
From: Jorge LLambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: deleting places
To:         lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu
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> > It is true that the usual way of abandoning a place is to travel somewhere
> > else, but couldn't we say "Life left his body"? It didn't go anywhere, nor
> > did it travel, it just left.
>
> This is a useful meaning, but doesn't square with the place structure
> of cliva, which has route and means arguments. I suggest, for your
> sense, "cohi (zei) tolzva"

{co'a}, maybe. But I agree with you. It seems I'm not getting {cliva} quite
right. Of course, if it has a vehicle place, it must be a travelling kind
of leaving.

> (Note that Lojbab would disapprove of saying "life left his body" in
> Lojban, on the grounds that a Thai might not understand it. (See most
> recent JL.))

Too metaphorical, hm?
>
> ---
> And
>

Jorge