Return-Path: Received: from kejal-9101.pc by xiron with uucp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0omfBL-0000osC; Tue, 12 Oct 93 10:34 EET Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi by xiron with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0omf97-0000osC; Tue, 12 Oct 93 10:31 EET Received: from charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI by kruuna.helsinki.fi with SMTP id AA01280 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 12 Oct 1993 10:30:47 +0200 Received: From HYLKN1/WORKQUEUE2 by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.931012102907.704; 12 Oct 93 10:29:54 +0200 Message-Id: Received: From kruuna.helsinki.fi by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with SMTP id 102.931012102844.384; 12 Oct 93 10:28:45 +-02-01 Received: from finhutc.hut.fi by kruuna.helsinki.fi with SMTP id AA01067 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 12 Oct 1993 10:29:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199310120829.AA01067@kruuna.helsinki.fi> Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 4242; Tue, 12 Oct 93 10:29:52 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4240; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 10:29:47 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2782; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 09:29:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 04:28:11 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: vilva From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: Lean Lujvo and fat gismu To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 533 Lines: 12 cusku has a medium place x4. What constitites a medium is somewhat uncertain, but I would not rule out including a language name in that place, relying on the intensionality of names to get around semantic diuffulties. Probably of course, a medium place is an abstraction like lenu tavla, in which case properly the expression should be tu'a la lojban. As I said in another message, I remove places from a lujvo by declaring them irrelevant, generall using "claxu" after a semantic expression of the term to be eliminated. lojbab