From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Fri Oct 15 10:13:04 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 15 Oct 1993 14:16:36 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 15 Oct 1993 14:16:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199310151816.AA16538@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4894; Fri, 15 Oct 93 14:14:25 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 2625; Fri, 15 Oct 93 14:16:29 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 14:13:04 EDT Reply-To: Jorge LLambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge LLambias Subject: Re: more on fat gismu X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: > "Our reserve of wood is going fast." > > Well the reserve presumably DOES exist in some physical location(s). Yes, but there's nothing about that location that is intrinsic to the reserve. I may move it around, and the reserve keeps being the same reserve. If I say "I'm moving our reserve of wood to the basement", the reserve of wood is the same one before and after I move it. Also, when I move it, I'm not moving the container. I would use {srostu}={sorcystuzi} for the physical location. st1 (st2=so1) so2 x1 is a store (location) of material x2 > If you > look at the transitive verb based on sorcu, you get something like > x1 stores x2 in/at x3 > and it isn't all that clear whether x3 is the x1 or the x3 of sorcu I don't see how to get that from {sorcu gasnu}. I would use something like: socpu'i (sorcu punji) p1 (p2=s1) s2 p3 x1 stores material x2 in/at x3 Jorge