From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Tue Oct 19 07:49:38 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 11:51:54 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 11:51:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199310191551.AA05978@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7175; Tue, 19 Oct 93 11:49:49 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 2829; Tue, 19 Oct 93 11:52:32 EDT Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 11:49:38 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: "philosophy" (was: toldi nunsenva) X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: <199310191043.AA04588@access.digex.net> from "Logical Language Group" at Oct 19, 93 06:43:56 am Status: RO X-Status: mi'e .djan. .i la lojbab. cusku di'e > There are two definitions of science that I have seen used by intellectuals. > The one used by scientists usually relies on concepts like the scientific > method, description, experimentation, etc. Another definition, used by > "non-scientists", and especially those in the humanities and sometimes > the social sciences, is harder to define, but to seems to mean a large > systematized body of knowledge or field of study. i.e. it translates into > what we might call an -ology. It is not clear to me that no part > of philosophy exists which qualifies > as an -ology. (I vaguely recall -ology has something to do with Greek > "logos", which may or may not help my definitional efforts). So it does: the question is, does "saske" mean specifically "science" Anglo- American style, or is it more like German "Wissenschaft", which covers all the fields of scholarly knowledge ("Naturwissenschaft" being the natural sciences specifically, vs. "Geisteswissenschaft", where "Geist" = "spirit", being what we usually call "the humanities")? There is no doubt that philosophy is an ology (no leading hyphen needed). Is "saske" wide enough to cover all the ologies? -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.