From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Wed Oct 20 09:46:16 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 17:40:23 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 17:40:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199310192140.AA00451@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8895; Tue, 19 Oct 93 17:38:19 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6749; Tue, 19 Oct 93 17:40:58 EDT Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 09:46:16 GMT+1200 Reply-To: Chris Handley Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Handley Organization: University of Otago Subject: Re: TECH: "philosophy" (was: toldi nunsenva) To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: >exists which qualifies as an -ology. (I vaguely recall -ology has >something to do with Greek "logos", which may or may not help my >definitional efforts). > My dictionary confirms that most of the words that end in '-ology' do indeed come from Greek 'logos' a discourse. Philosophy (as it stands) stands for 'love of wisdom' which may or may not help. However, just to muddy the waters even more, 'philology' does not mean, as one might expect, a study of love, but a study (=love) of words and their origins, i.e. what we are doing now. This rests on the/an- other meaning of logos - word or speech. The main problem with philosophy is that it embraces and enormous expanse of human endeavour, from reasoning and logic thru ethics and the problems of self-will to ontology and epistemology. Finding a short pithy lujvo to encompass all that is going to be tough. Unless you go for broke and translate the English metaphor. Does lojban have a word for that kind of love? What do other languages do? ====================================================================== Chris Handley chandley@otago.ac.nz Dept of Computer Science Ph (+64) 3-479-8499 University of Otago Fax (+64) 3-479-8577 Dunedin, NZ ______________________________________________________________________ There are three types of Computer Scientist: those who can count and those who can't.