From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Wed Oct 20 01:33:51 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 11:35:52 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 11:35:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199310201535.AA05478@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2153; Wed, 20 Oct 93 11:33:48 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3336; Wed, 20 Oct 93 11:35:34 EDT Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 08:33:51 -0700 Reply-To: jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU Subject: Re: TECH: (attention Ivan!) demonstrative predicate cmavo needed? X-To: lojban@cuvmb.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Oct 93 15:07:41 EDT." <9310191911.AA02759@julia.math.ucla.edu> Status: RO X-Status: > The word I was looking for was a predicate demonstrative. Adjectively in > English, it is "that kind of", adverbially: "thusly, that way". Russian has > ...tak/takzhe (adverbs, I guess I would call them) and takoi (adjective... Yes, I agree that we need them, and I also agree with your analysis that the current non-predicate fashion in English usage is an impediment to our recognition of this gap in Lojban. (I adjusted the last clause to replace true predication with verbal nouns. Doesn't it sound sophisticated? :-) -- jimc