From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Tue Oct 12 06:26:36 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 10:27:46 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 10:27:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199310121427.AA04085@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9480; Tue, 12 Oct 93 10:25:47 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6163; Tue, 12 Oct 93 10:28:31 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 10:26:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Lean Lujvo and fat gismu To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO X-Status: Damn, these holidays are really a hassle; I can hardly skim the messages. Just a quick note on klama/cliva/litru which won't help anything. There's some kind of gut feeling that I can't quite quantify... When I think "A bird flies through the sky", that has to be "litru" (or maybe "voirli'u"), even though the bird obviously came from somewhere and will eventually stop. But the action under consideration is *not* the going anywhere or leaving anywhere, it's just the *travel* part. That may be a red herring, since you can't always do that, but somehow it makes sense to me... Bleah, maybe I'll post better when I know what I mean. ~mark