From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Tue Oct 12 11:55:26 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 15:56:52 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 15:56:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199310121956.AA24363@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1164; Tue, 12 Oct 93 15:54:36 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9808; Tue, 12 Oct 93 15:57:20 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 15:55:26 EDT Reply-To: Jorge LLambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge LLambias Subject: Re: Lean Lujvo and fat gismu To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO X-Status: la djan cusku di'e > > a gravitationally stable aggregate of items such that > > there is no 2 available dimensional view that permits > > precise counting of the constituent items. > > (I presume this means "available 2-dimensional view".) > Sorry, this definition is no more precise than the intuitive meaning. > Consider the notion of being able to count N objects precisely just by > looking at them. That's not how I read the definition. Taking a picture of the alleged heap and taking your time to count is allowed. I know that "heap" is a fuzzy notion, but the definition is ingenious. co'o mi'e xorxes