Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 13:59:10 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 13:59:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199310191759.AA03333@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7824; Tue, 19 Oct 93 13:57:04 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 4397; Tue, 19 Oct 93 13:59:56 EDT Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 13:57:00 EDT Reply-To: protin@USL.COM Sender: Lojban list From: Art Protin Subject: Re: TECH: "philosophy" (was: toldi nunsenva) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Tue Oct 19 09:57:00 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET John Cowan quote someone and comments (my lojban is rusty and I did not take the time to translate): >> A much better term for philosophy would be "mother-of-sciences." > > An interesting idea: "skemamta", anyone? Probably needs to be > "pevskemamta", but that would meet Nick's point about philosophy > being idiosyncratic: use a figurative lujvo rather than a Latinate > le'avla. While "mother-of-sciences" is an interesting description, I suspect that other descriptions may be more enriching for our language. Webster's New World Dictionary has six definitions for philosophy starting with 1. orig., love of, or the search for, wisdom and knowledge and most of the definitions involve similar themes regarding collected knowledge. The other definitions involve a theme about the "conduct of life". I am interested in the concept included in the collected knowledge themes. The most interesting view I was given on the subject was that philosophy was (and here I lack a consise expression of it) study introspected, the study of study of the world, in a word metastudy. This idea was that one could be caught up in the study of a detail of human knowledge and applications of that detail to specific problem, or one might sometimes take a view of that process of studying and problem solving, and learn \ / learning generalize \ / generalizations model X models . / \ . . / \ . basically apply our bag of study tools to the subject of studying. I think this view translates into using "skesaske" for "philosophy". Does any one else share this view of the subject? thank you all, Art Protin Arthur Protin STANDARD DISCLAIMER: The views expressed are strictly those of the author and are in no way indictative of his employer, customers, or this installation.