Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 17:16:23 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 17:16:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199310042116.AA25995@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1496; Mon, 04 Oct 93 17:14:13 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 0419; Mon, 04 Oct 93 17:12:24 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 17:11:34 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: TECH: local unit gismu, hierarchical place structures X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Mon Oct 4 13:11:34 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET > > mi'e je'abo la lojbab. > > >I agree that the x3 place defaults to 0, but I think that the x4 place > >is required to know what the x3 place really means. Some may consider > >the furlong to be the "first subunit" for the mile; others may have > >other choices. I also don't see how there can be an arbitrary number of > >subunit places following x3, since x4 is nailed down as the standard. > > On the basis of this argument, I would accept that any subunit places > should follow the standard place, moving the latter to x3. There > certainly need not be something special about two levels of unit/subunit > (though it does seem that at least in English measurements we seldom > specify more than two even when there exist more. I think John's method of using {pi'e} looks much better. > If people want this change, I will change all five local unit gismu > identically. I agree that moving the standard to x3 is better. This will make using the following subunits so awkward, that hopefully nobody will use them, and they will naturally fall off. :) Jorge