Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 12:58:39 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 12:58:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199310071658.AA00683@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4021; Thu, 07 Oct 93 12:56:46 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8720; Thu, 07 Oct 93 12:58:50 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 12:55:56 EDT Reply-To: Jorge LLambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge LLambias Subject: Re: TECH: long, but major topic: lean lujvo and fat gismu X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Thu Oct 7 08:55:56 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET la djan cusku di'e > Oh yes. The properties of a mass are the properties of its components, plus > any emergent properties it may have. Indeed, I can say "mi'o klama" even > if you are not going anyplace, or (in lojbab's graphic example) if I cut > your hand off and take it with me! oiro'o > English occasionally uses "we" as a mass pronoun in this way: > > We're having a baby/We're pregnant > > may be used by the male member of a couple, e.g. You can say that in Spanish as well, but I always thought it was more of an empathy thing, rather than a mass property. I still haven't quite "groked" this mass business anyway. co'o mi'e xorxes