Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 02:27:30 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 02:27:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199310200627.AA21184@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0788; Wed, 20 Oct 93 02:25:23 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9821; Wed, 20 Oct 93 02:28:22 EDT Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 16:23:04 +1000 Reply-To: Nick Nicholas Sender: Lojban list From: Nick Nicholas Subject: Re: TECH: "philosophy" (was: toldi nunsenva) X-To: lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET X-Cc: Lojban Mailing List To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: <199310191048.AA29421@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU> from "Logical Language Group" at Oct 19, 93 06:43:56 am Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Thu Oct 21 02:23:04 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET To Logical Language Group respond I thus: #I've run across this before, in another forum (can't remmeber which one) #There are two definitions of science that I have seen used by intellectuals. #The one used by scientists usually relies on concepts like the scientific #method, description, experimentation, etc. Another definition, used by #"non-scientists", and especially those in the humanities and sometimes #the social sciences, is harder to define, but ot seems to mean a large #systematized body of knowledge or field of study. i.e. it translates into #what we might call an -ology. As always, the sensible thing to do with a gismu definition is to go for the broader one, which can be subsequently restricted by tanru, rather than the narrower, which is much harder to expand in our literal-minded language. Science science would then be "experimental science", which is not quite nuncipra saske, but close to it. "Kai` sa`n swqh~kan t'akriba` piota`, N N O nsn@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au kai` sa`n plhsi'aze pia` [h [w'ra te'sseres, I I L IRC:nicxjo RL:shaddupnic sto`n e'rwta doqh~kan eutuxei~s." C C A University of Melbourne. K.P.Kaba'fhs, _Du'o Ne'oi, 23 E'ws 24 Etw~n_ K H S *Ceci n'est pas un .sig*