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Date:         Fri, 15 Oct 1993 01:19:20 -0400
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From: Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>
Subject:      Re: more on fat gismu
To: Veijo Vilva <VILVA@viikki21.helsinki.fi>
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"They are collecting the supplies needed for the trip."

I don't think this is sorcu until you put those supplies somewhere.  They
are se xaksu, or se pruce or se sabji.

"Our reserve of wood is going fast."

Well the reserve presumably DOES exist in some physical location(s).  Though
I might get something out of an argument about a supply of electrons or
a force supply for which it is a littl harder to pin down what physical
location containment might really mean.

I believe that a lot of the evolution of this concept had to do with more
permanent stores that these examples.

"the library is a store of books in that building"
and the like.

It might be that x1 is merely x2 massified, in which case you 'win'.  If you
look at the transitive verb based on sorcu, you get something like
x1 stores x2 in/at x3
and it isn't all that clear whether x3 is the x1 or the x3 of sorcu

I'm still undecided.  More arguments please from others with opinions ...

lojbab