Return-Path: Received: from kejal-9101.pc by xiron with uucp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0ok5Ck-0000osC; Tue, 5 Oct 93 07:44 EET Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi by xiron with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0ok1Rz-0000osC; Tue, 5 Oct 93 03:44 EET Received: from charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI by kruuna.helsinki.fi with SMTP id AA16855 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 5 Oct 1993 03:51:02 +0200 Received: From HYLKN1/WORKQUEUE2 by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.931005035008.416; 05 Oct 93 03:50:54 +0200 Message-Id: Received: From FINHUTC.hut.fi by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with SMTP id 102.931005034955.384; 05 Oct 93 03:50:15 +-02-01 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 0081; Tue, 05 Oct 93 03:50:40 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0078; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 03:50:24 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7521; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 02:49:30 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 17:11:34 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: vilva From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: TECH: local unit gismu, hierarchical place structures X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1070 Lines: 27 > > mi'e je'abo la lojbab. > > >I agree that the x3 place defaults to 0, but I think that the x4 place > >is required to know what the x3 place really means. Some may consider > >the furlong to be the "first subunit" for the mile; others may have > >other choices. I also don't see how there can be an arbitrary number of > >subunit places following x3, since x4 is nailed down as the standard. > > On the basis of this argument, I would accept that any subunit places > should follow the standard place, moving the latter to x3. There > certainly need not be something special about two levels of unit/subunit > (though it does seem that at least in English measurements we seldom > specify more than two even when there exist more. I think John's method of using {pi'e} looks much better. > If people want this change, I will change all five local unit gismu > identically. I agree that moving the standard to x3 is better. This will make using the following subunits so awkward, that hopefully nobody will use them, and they will naturally fall off. :) Jorge