Return-Path: Received: from kejal-9101.pc by xiron with uucp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0on2Np-0000osC; Wed, 13 Oct 93 11:20 EET Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi by xiron with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0on1ln-0000osC; Wed, 13 Oct 93 10:41 EET Received: from charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI by kruuna.helsinki.fi with SMTP id AA14533 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:40:09 +0200 Received: From HYLKN1/WORKQUEUE2 by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.931013103903.608; 13 Oct 93 10:39:41 +0200 Message-Id: Received: From FINHUTC.hut.fi by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with SMTP id 102.931013103852.320; 13 Oct 93 10:39:24 +-02-01 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 4850; Wed, 13 Oct 93 10:40:11 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4848; Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:40:06 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8545; Wed, 13 Oct 1993 09:39:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 09:40:30 BST Reply-To: I.Alexander.bra0125@oasis.icl.co.uk Sender: vilva From: Iain Alexander Subject: Re: TECH: Lean Lujvo and fat gismu X-To: jorge@phyast.pitt.edu X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 753 Lines: 24 mi pu cusku di'e > > But {cusku} doesn't have a "language" place, so I've got to use > > another word to tack this on. We normally use {bau} or {bangu}, > > although this has a seemingly irrelevant-in-this-context place > > for the people who speak the language. .i la xorxes. cusku di'e > bangu ban bau language > x1 is a/the language/dialect used by x2 > to express/communicate x3 (si'o/du'u, not quote) > It doesn't look like it has to be all the speakers of the language. Oops! Looks like I chose a bad example (to illustrate problems - a good example of a productive place structure). I was working with bangu ban bau language x1 is a/the language/dialect of people(s) x2 1b 162 which now appears to be out-of-date. mi'e .i,n.