Return-Path: Received: from kejal-9101.pc by xiron with uucp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0omz6F-0000osC; Wed, 13 Oct 93 07:50 EET Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi by xiron with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0omq6n-0000osC; Tue, 12 Oct 93 22:14 EET Received: from charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI by kruuna.helsinki.fi with SMTP id AA01305 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 12 Oct 1993 22:13:02 +0200 Received: From HYLKN1/WORKQUEUE2 by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.931012221138.416; 12 Oct 93 22:12:17 +0200 Message-Id: Received: From FINHUTC.hut.fi by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with SMTP id 102.931012221122.384; 12 Oct 93 22:11:35 +-02-01 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 0596; Tue, 12 Oct 93 22:12:38 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0593; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 22:12:34 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8413; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 21:11:57 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 21:07:48 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: vilva From: ucleaar Subject: Re: Lean Lujvo and fat gismu X-To: lojban@cuvma.BITNET To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 12 Oct 93 10:26:36 D.) Content-Length: 537 Lines: 16 Mark says: > There's > some kind of gut feeling that I can't quite quantify... When I think "A > bird flies through the sky", that has to be "litru" (or maybe "voirli'u"), > even though the bird obviously came from somewhere and will eventually > stop. But the action under consideration is *not* the going anywhere or > leaving anywhere, it's just the *travel* part. This is one case where _litru_ is natural, but _klama_ is not inappropriate, especially if _caho klama_ is used. ---- And KO JBOBANPEHO