Return-Path: Received: from kejal-9101.pc by xiron with uucp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0omz6J-0000osC; Wed, 13 Oct 93 07:50 EET Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi by xiron with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0omprP-0000osC; Tue, 12 Oct 93 21:58 EET Received: from charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI by kruuna.helsinki.fi with SMTP id AA00323 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 12 Oct 1993 21:57:08 +0200 Received: From HYLKN1/WORKQUEUE2 by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.931012215544.416; 12 Oct 93 21:56:23 +0200 Message-Id: Received: From FINHUTC.hut.fi by charon2-gw.pc.Helsinki.FI via Charon 3.4 with SMTP id 102.931012215531.384; 12 Oct 93 21:55:44 +-02-01 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 0421; Tue, 12 Oct 93 21:56:47 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0419; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 21:56:42 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8043; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 20:56:04 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 15:55:26 EDT Reply-To: Jorge LLambias Sender: vilva From: Jorge LLambias Subject: Re: Lean Lujvo and fat gismu X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 638 Lines: 18 la djan cusku di'e > > a gravitationally stable aggregate of items such that > > there is no 2 available dimensional view that permits > > precise counting of the constituent items. > > (I presume this means "available 2-dimensional view".) > Sorry, this definition is no more precise than the intuitive meaning. > Consider the notion of being able to count N objects precisely just by > looking at them. That's not how I read the definition. Taking a picture of the alleged heap and taking your time to count is allowed. I know that "heap" is a fuzzy notion, but the definition is ingenious. co'o mi'e xorxes