Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sat, 16 Oct 1993 01:46:52 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sat, 16 Oct 1993 01:46:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199310160546.AA11889@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6967; Sat, 16 Oct 93 01:44:50 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8136; Sat, 16 Oct 93 01:47:45 EDT Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 15:45:44 +1000 Reply-To: Nick Nicholas Sender: Lojban list From: Nick Nicholas Subject: Re: TEXT: toldi nunsenva X-To: lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET X-Cc: Lojban Mailing List To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: <199310151900.AA13873@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU> from "Logical Language Group" at Oct 15, 93 02:58:28 pm Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Sat Oct 16 01:46:52 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET To Logical Language Group respond I thus: #mi'e .djan. .i la kolin. cusku di'e #> 1) nunpijypa'i #> If I hadn't known the story, I would have no idea what to make of #> an 'event of wisdom judge'/ #As Iain says, that's "prami" not "pajni". I admit that it may not be the #best metaphor, and pc (who is one) has a different metaphor buried in TL #somewhere, but TL isn't easy to search, so I calqued the Greek version, #which probably doesn't really apply to la tcuan,dz. anyhow. 'Philosophy' is so slippery a concept, and has had its meaning vary so through the ages, that I suspect the most sensible translation is {tadnrfilosofo}; but if we must have a lujvo, this obviously is too metaphorical to work, and I's suggest {junske}, knowledge-science. (It's as good as any.) #John Cowan sharing account for now # e'osai ko sarji la lojban. "Kai` sa`n swqh~kan t'akriba` piota`, N N O nsn@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au kai` sa`n plhsi'aze pia` [h [w'ra te'sseres, I I L IRC:nicxjo RL:shaddupnic sto`n e'rwta doqh~kan eutuxei~s." C C A University of Melbourne. K.P.Kaba'fhs, _Du'o Ne'oi, 23 E'ws 24 Etw~n_ K H S *Ceci n'est pas un .sig*