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From: Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>
Subject:      Re: TECH: (attention Ivan!) demonstrative predicate cmavo needed?
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To: Erik Rauch <rauch>
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I don't agree that:
LL> Because a tense really applies to the EVENT, not the relationship as such.
LL> "mi vi klama le zarci" means "le nu mi klama le zarci kei <is-nearby>".

as claimed by John.  In Lojban, events are sumti.  bridi describe
relationships.  That "vi" expands in Lojban to "viku" or perhaps to "vi ti",
it does NOT change the predicate/relationship that is being claimed, but
merely adds in a location place to the relationship.  There are also tenses
that cannot be associated with specific events, such as those of TAhE and
CAhA.

lojbab