From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Tue Nov 23 13:33:09 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 08:36:47 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 08:36:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199311231336.AA02492@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7125; Tue, 23 Nov 93 08:35:02 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6571; Tue, 23 Nov 93 08:36:16 EDT Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 13:33:09 GMT Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: proposal for new member of SE To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: David suggests: +++++> I like to ask for opinions on another alternative to the example which does not require the addition of a new member of SE. What about: le marce po le nunklama The Vehicle associated with the event of going. >+++++ That will pragmatically work in a lot of cases. The problem is: 1) It is not as specific as 'le sexixa nunklama' - 'po' is a different relation from 'faxixa' 2) In another sense it is too specific. na ku ro xe klama cu marce (not all means of transport are vehicles). 3) There happens to be a convenient selbri - marce - which more or less does in this case. There will not always be so. The question was of how to extend an existing, precise mechanism beyond the arbitrary limits in the cmavo provided. There is a mechanism provided to do this, but the questioner thought that this mechanism was too unwieldy, and was asking for a more compact way. Your suggestion does not answer the question - it merely provides a work-around. Colin Fine