From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Tue Nov 23 14:38:50 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 10:07:56 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 10:07:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199311231507.AA04721@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7513; Tue, 23 Nov 93 10:06:11 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 7489; Tue, 23 Nov 93 10:07:24 EDT Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 14:38:50 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: proposal for new member of SE To: lojban@CUVMA.BITNET In-Reply-To: (Your message of Mon, 22 Nov 93 12:01:13 EST.) Status: RO X-Status: > mi'e .djan. .i la .and. cusku di'e > > But to get very natural orders like 51234 you need several SE or several > > FA, so though the effect of rotation can be achieved by existing > > devices, they are cumbersome relative to the naturalness of the order. > > Well, you do need "several SE", but only two FA are required: > > fu le karce cu klama fa mi la bastn. la .atlantas. le dargu > > thanks to the "FA-suppletion" rules, which say that an un-FA'ed place falls > into the numerically next place not yet filled. How's this? I'd thought that to get 51234 with FA you just need "fu" on the first sumti. Why not? [I don't know why I originally said you need several FA.] --- And