Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 15:02:50 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 15:02:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199311232002.AA03425@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9094; Tue, 23 Nov 93 15:01:06 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 1135; Tue, 23 Nov 93 15:02:13 EDT Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 20:00:26 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: proposal for new member of SE X-To: lojban@CUVMA.BITNET To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 23 Nov 93 13:26:53 EST.) Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Tue Nov 23 20:00:26 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET John: > > >thanks to the "FA-suppletion" rules, which say that an un-FA'ed place falls > > > into the numerically next place not yet filled. > > la .and. cusku di'e > > > How's this? I'd thought that to get 51234 with FA you just need "fu" on > > the first sumti. Why not? [I don't know why I originally said you need > > several FA.] > > Well, no. The FA-rules don't know how many places the selbri has, so > omitting "fa" from the example above puts the four following sumti into > the (meaningless) x6, x7, x8, and x9 places. I see I was ignorant of the FA-suppletion rules. I assumed that FA-marked sumti had no effect on the place number of the other sumti, except for removing the FA-sumti from the sequence. So Fi-A B C D E F would be 3 1 2 4 5 6. And Fi-A B C fa-D E F would (no doubt gardenpathing the hearer) be 3 2 4 1 5 6. What is the rationale behind the FA-suppletion rules? - superficially they seem to complicate the grammar unprofitably. --- And KO JBOBANPEHO