Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 5 Nov 1993 12:28:35 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 5 Nov 1993 12:28:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199311051728.AA07012@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0538; Fri, 05 Nov 93 12:28:22 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 4556; Fri, 05 Nov 93 12:27:38 EDT Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 15:56:55 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: TECH: more thoughts on zi'o X-To: lojban@CUVMA.BITNET To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 04 Nov 93 15:50:00 EST.) Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Fri Nov 5 15:56:55 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET > Thank you all who responded. I now have a better understanding > of zi'o. Now, the challenge is to convince me, if you care, > that klama with a zi'o in any place is meaningful. I doubt it. Since the meaning of a zihoed brivla is only partly guessable, construing a bridi witha ziho sumti is like construing a tanru - you guess at the meaning, & it doesn't make much sense to say "this is not meaningful" rather than "I find it hard tO guess what this might mean". In response to your challenge: ziho klama ziho ziho mi ziho "I am a route, though not necessarily one that is ever travelled along" ziho klama ziho ziho ziho mi "I am a vehicle, though not necessarily one that ever moves" ------ And KO JBOBANPEHO