Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0p09l3-0000PZC; Thu, 18 Nov 93 15:50 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 7206; Thu, 18 Nov 93 15:51:02 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7204; Thu, 18 Nov 1993 15:51:01 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4527; Thu, 18 Nov 1993 14:50:07 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 11:02:50 GMT Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: proposal for new member of SE To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 483 Lines: 16 > Could we not instead have an additional SE (with rafsi) that means: > exchange 1st & last places >Used recursively, this would allow a different way of getting at >places beyond the 5th. >For example, if this new member of SE were "xehe", rafsi "xez", >then the lujvo for "x1 is the vehicle of an event of going" >would be "xeznunkla". .i'enai .oi This is rampant ad-hocery. I also don't see how it could be used recursively. I see nothing wrong with using zei. Colin