Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI,@SEARN.SUNET.SE:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0ovUxj-0000PNC; Fri, 5 Nov 93 19:28 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 7421; Fri, 05 Nov 93 19:28:54 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7418; Fri, 5 Nov 1993 19:28:54 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6128; Fri, 5 Nov 1993 18:28:07 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 15:56:55 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: TECH: more thoughts on zi'o X-To: lojban@CUVMA.BITNET To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 04 Nov 93 15:50:00 EST.) Content-Length: 752 Lines: 19 > Thank you all who responded. I now have a better understanding > of zi'o. Now, the challenge is to convince me, if you care, > that klama with a zi'o in any place is meaningful. I doubt it. Since the meaning of a zihoed brivla is only partly guessable, construing a bridi witha ziho sumti is like construing a tanru - you guess at the meaning, & it doesn't make much sense to say "this is not meaningful" rather than "I find it hard tO guess what this might mean". In response to your challenge: ziho klama ziho ziho mi ziho "I am a route, though not necessarily one that is ever travelled along" ziho klama ziho ziho ziho mi "I am a vehicle, though not necessarily one that ever moves" ------ And KO JBOBANPEHO