Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0p1zOe-0000PaC; Tue, 23 Nov 93 17:11 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 7612; Tue, 23 Nov 93 17:11:35 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7611; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 17:11:34 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9877; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 16:10:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 14:38:50 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: proposal for new member of SE X-To: lojban@CUVMA.BITNET To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Mon, 22 Nov 93 12:01:13 EST.) Content-Length: 693 Lines: 18 > mi'e .djan. .i la .and. cusku di'e > > But to get very natural orders like 51234 you need several SE or several > > FA, so though the effect of rotation can be achieved by existing > > devices, they are cumbersome relative to the naturalness of the order. > > Well, you do need "several SE", but only two FA are required: > > fu le karce cu klama fa mi la bastn. la .atlantas. le dargu > > thanks to the "FA-suppletion" rules, which say that an un-FA'ed place falls > into the numerically next place not yet filled. How's this? I'd thought that to get 51234 with FA you just need "fu" on the first sumti. Why not? [I don't know why I originally said you need several FA.] --- And