Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0p1xw3-0000PaC; Tue, 23 Nov 93 15:37 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 6568; Tue, 23 Nov 93 15:37:49 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6566; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 15:37:22 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7065; Tue, 23 Nov 1993 14:36:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 13:33:09 GMT Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: proposal for new member of SE To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1000 Lines: 34 David suggests: +++++> I like to ask for opinions on another alternative to the example which does not require the addition of a new member of SE. What about: le marce po le nunklama The Vehicle associated with the event of going. >+++++ That will pragmatically work in a lot of cases. The problem is: 1) It is not as specific as 'le sexixa nunklama' - 'po' is a different relation from 'faxixa' 2) In another sense it is too specific. na ku ro xe klama cu marce (not all means of transport are vehicles). 3) There happens to be a convenient selbri - marce - which more or less does in this case. There will not always be so. The question was of how to extend an existing, precise mechanism beyond the arbitrary limits in the cmavo provided. There is a mechanism provided to do this, but the questioner thought that this mechanism was too unwieldy, and was asking for a more compact way. Your suggestion does not answer the question - it merely provides a work-around. Colin Fine