Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 22 Nov 1993 12:02:17 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 22 Nov 1993 12:02:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199311221702.AA09242@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3077; Mon, 22 Nov 93 12:00:30 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 7316; Mon, 22 Nov 93 12:01:36 EDT Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 12:01:13 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: proposal for new member of SE X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: <199311201644.AA26425@access.digex.net> from "ucleaar" at Nov 20, 93 04:35:17 pm Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Mon Nov 22 07:01:13 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET mi'e .djan. .i la .and. cusku di'e > But to get very natural orders like 51234 you need several SE or several > FA, so though the effect of rotation can be achieved by existing > devices, they are cumbersome relative to the naturalness of the order. Well, you do need "several SE", but only two FA are required: fu le karce cu klama fa mi la bastn. la .atlantas. le dargu thanks to the "FA-suppletion" rules, which say that an un-FA'ed place falls into the numerically next place not yet filled. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.