From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Tue Dec 7 23:50:53 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 8 Dec 1993 04:52:24 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 8 Dec 1993 04:27:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199312080927.AA22664@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6185; Wed, 08 Dec 93 04:50:15 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 2469; Wed, 08 Dec 93 04:51:38 EDT Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 04:50:53 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: NEW GISMU LIST (and Logflash files) posted to FTP site To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Cc: nsn@krang.vis.mu.oz.au Status: RO X-Status: I have posted to the ftp site at casper.cs.yale.edu the result of my hopefully final pass over the gismu list before dictionary publication. The file is in the main /pub/lojban directory as gismu.c93, but John Cowan may be moving this, perhaps to the /draft subdirectory. I have reviewed all comments I received on previous lists, and made several revisions and clarifications to place structures. In many cases, I have proposed lujvo which I think will help clarify the meaning of the underlying gismu. I have added in hundreds of English synonyms that will help form the basis of a much better English-to-Lojban list, to appear in the dictionary. All lujvo have been verified for well-formedness (though Nick will be reviewing them for quality and consistency with his analysis), and the file has been spell-checked, unlike any previous gismu list (boy was THAT fun!) There is one substantive issue to be resolved, on which I am posting separately. gismu with substantive place structure or meaning changes since approx. July when I posted the last list to the ftp site have an = in column 158. An earlier set of changes, from last years list until I made a new list in June or July, has an * in column 158. These flags are the ones that people should probably focus on - there are about 100 words with "=", and another 70 with "*", so this is a substantial revision for those heavily into the nitty-gritty of place structures. I can't characterize changes too much further - there is probably a small reduction in total places based on Jorge's campaign against fat lujvo, and there have been agent places removed from some gismu. Comments are of course welcome, especially if you don't like something that was changed. The level of resistance to new comments, though, will be significantly higher. I will be moving on to other areas of the dictionary, giving people perhaps a month for comments, maybe more if I continue to have schedule problems like I have. I am also posting a set of LogFlash data files compatible with the newer version of LogFlash. You unfortunately will have to rebuild your personal lesson files (the ones with your name+h/l+.lf1) to use this list, since there are some changes to the order of words in the file. I would appreciate if anyone using the old files who got out of new word review mode and into the later modes (gaining control, maintenance, or brush-up modes), send me these old files before deleting them, as they may have usable statistics embedded in them. You probably don't need to go to the new files unless you are focussing on rafsi or place structures while studying the words - there are a couple of clarificational keyword changes, but none of these are really substantive since that would have required a more formal baseline review. These files are "zip"ped and will be found in lf1293.zip lojbab