Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pCQVT-0000PYC; Wed, 22 Dec 93 12:09 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7424; Wed, 22 Dec 93 12:09:48 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7422; Wed, 22 Dec 1993 12:09:48 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1953; Wed, 22 Dec 1993 11:08:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 10:07:13 GMT Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: POssessives To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 586 Lines: 14 +++++++> Greenberg universal 2, cited by JCB, says that prepositional languages tend to the NG order, so he (JCB) believes that "le broda pe le brode" will tend to be dominant. So far we don't have enough data from enough speakers to tell. <+++++++ Just my point. I have not examined the data, but I would be willing to bet that in the Lojban written so far (almost all by native English speakers) there is a preponderance of the English pattern - preposed for pro-sumti and names (and perhaps also descriptions designating animate entities) and postposed otherwise. Colin