Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pA1gA-0000PbC; Wed, 15 Dec 93 21:14 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5965; Wed, 15 Dec 93 21:14:50 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5961; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 21:14:16 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6652; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 19:58:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 13:57:18 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Now it can be told! X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 2417 Lines: 50 I have just finished perusing some of the output of LLG's (as yet unreleased) lujvo-glossing engine. One of the limitations of this program is that it cannot tell Lojban lujvo from similarly formed English, Esperanto, or anything else, so occasional gems pop up. In particular, the Lojban translation for "Take a flying f* in a rolling doughnut" is now obvious: ko.ionai gurgle you-imperative-contempt roll+copulate (Be sure to give it the proper Lojban pronunciation, of course.) Rather less useful is "burgle", to brownly copulate (unless "brown" is given an questionable figurative sense). On the other hand, "la tangle girzu" is the Mile-High Club, and its railway equivalent is "la gargle girzu". And "lei single" are those who appear in "Oh! Calcutta!", the nudie musical (supposedly, BTW, a garbled form of "Ah, quel cul t-elle!") Usefully, "lo kristo" refers to constant belief; unfortunately, "kristi" refers to losing one's faith. "lo bonsai" is a wave-meal, which I have trouble grasping (in either sense); and the Lojban word for "is measured in centimeters" is concisely "centre". The set of gismu la xorxes. doesn't like he could call "lo'i gimble". Classes (sets) aren't usually quantified with metric prefixes, but a picoclass would be "lo pickle". "lo polski" is a tour-guide in Tahiti, whereas "lo slovenski" would be Jack London or Robert Service. "lo presto" is someone whose personality remains unchanged; most appropriately, "lo sensei" is one who is separated either from, or by, doubt. Some names take on an odd flavor, too: "la sergei" would suggest a person who is made happy by stairs, whereas "la sartre" has the still more bizarre implication of a sour object one meter long. (How tall was he?) "lo stable" is something that remains weak, whereas "lo tackle" is a class of tongues (coated, clean, or sticky?). "lei temple" are the time-sheets, beloved of all good independent contractors; "loi triple", on the other hand, is fly-paper. Finally, a rare three-part terfa'ijvo: "lo trustable" is a governor who remains in office, but fails to assert his authority. And as a closing holiday note, I must point out to you that a bunch of spherical bells, the kind that jingle on Santa's sleigh, could be quite properly named "lai blojab." -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.