Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pOozj-0000Q8C; Tue, 25 Jan 94 16:43 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2945; Tue, 25 Jan 94 16:43:42 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2941; Tue, 25 Jan 1994 16:43:41 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5570; Tue, 25 Jan 1994 15:42:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 09:40:58 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH quantity abstracts: quote X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199401250605.AA11459@access3.digex.net> from "Logical Language Group" at Jan 25, 94 01:05:55 am Content-Length: 809 Lines: 19 la lojbab. cusku di'e > The following out of context excerpt from soc.culture.scientists struck > me as revealing of the nature of "ni" abstraction. "ni" is the metric > that the respondent is referring to. We may not always be able to > define the scale or the metric value, but "ni" existing in the language > implies that every relationship have an at least theoretical > quantifiability to that relationship. This sounds more "jei" than "ni" to me. "jei" is "the truth-value of..." where it is agreed that truth value may be fuzzy: some propositions may be only 86% true, in which case le jei broda kei du li pibixa the truth-value-of whatever is the-number .86 -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.