Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pWVQG-0000PgC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 21:27 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2884; Tue, 15 Feb 94 21:26:50 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2882; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:26:50 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3757; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 20:25:50 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 14:20:08 EST Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: TECH: Quantifiers (was: cukta) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 639 Lines: 18 > > I suspect that my reasoning is wrong, why? la i,n mi di'e spuda > I don't understand your problem - your reasoning looks fine to me. > Just because it's veridical, doesn't mean it has to be precise. %~> By "it", you mean my reasoning? :) My doubts come from having read so many times that {ro lo broda} is often a much more absolute claim than one intends to make. If {ro lo broda} is the same as {ro lo broda be zo'e}, is it also the same as {ro lo broda be BAI zo'e}? This keeps the veridicality of {lo}, while permiting a context sensitive {ro}. I like it, but I don't think this is how {ro} is usually explained. mi'e xorxes