Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pW7tf-0000PfC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 20:19 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9452; Mon, 14 Feb 94 20:18:56 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9449; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 20:18:56 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4370; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 19:18:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 12:17:20 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Foot-in-mouth disease (was: Place structures with {co}) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 869 Lines: 17 Only after reading Veijo's post did I see that my last post, in response to Jorge, misreads him. Yes, it is true that "broda brode" has a different place structure from "brode co broda", viz. the former has the places of "brode", whereas the latter has the places of "broda". So, in saying that Colin's original claim is wrong, I erred. "Post in haste, repent at leisure." My explanation, however, as distinct from my correction, is still true, and is the same as Veijo's. I would add that Ivan's research seems to show that asymmetrical tanru, which are the only ones where "co" is relevant, are in the great majority, both of tanru-types and of instances; and that lojbab has said that symmetrical tanru without a connective are deprecated. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.