Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pUPXq-0000Q9C; Thu, 10 Feb 94 02:46 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3888; Thu, 10 Feb 94 02:46:00 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3885; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:46:00 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0297; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:45:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:47:24 EST Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: cukta X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1062 Lines: 26 la kolin cusku di'e > (This posting has no relation to my previous suggestion, which > seems now to be a blind alley in the developing discussion) Blind alley??? You had a place structure that agreed with the one proposed by lojbab, which John also approved, what blind alley? ------- > cukta x1 is a book/physical volume containing matter/work/text x2 on > medium x3 (not necessarily bound paper, but a physical object) ------- > I think the concentration on 'textual' is a mistake. Unless 'cukta' > is going to mean 'selpapri' (and the consensus seems to be that > it isn't) it should certainly include such things as multi-media > CD ROM encyclopaedias - all of which (so far) contain some text, > but it is hard to maintain for some of them that they are > primarily textual. Your definition doesn't seem to give that much emphasis to text. In any case, I think the structure is right. The details of what type of works are encompassed by x2 are secondary. I agree with John that this (with your wording or lojbab's) is the Right Thing. Jorge