Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:19:12 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:19:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199402141819.AA01214@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3926; Mon, 14 Feb 94 13:17:17 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 2322; Mon, 14 Feb 94 12:21:19 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 12:17:20 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Foot-in-mouth disease (was: Place structures with {co}) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Mon Feb 14 07:17:20 1994 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Only after reading Veijo's post did I see that my last post, in response to Jorge, misreads him. Yes, it is true that "broda brode" has a different place structure from "brode co broda", viz. the former has the places of "brode", whereas the latter has the places of "broda". So, in saying that Colin's original claim is wrong, I erred. "Post in haste, repent at leisure." My explanation, however, as distinct from my correction, is still true, and is the same as Veijo's. I would add that Ivan's research seems to show that asymmetrical tanru, which are the only ones where "co" is relevant, are in the great majority, both of tanru-types and of instances; and that lojbab has said that symmetrical tanru without a connective are deprecated. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.