Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:46:18 -0500 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:46:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199402100046.AA01339@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4889; Wed, 09 Feb 94 19:43:14 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9575; Wed, 09 Feb 94 19:45:05 EDT Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:47:24 EST Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: cukta X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Wed Feb 9 14:47:24 1994 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET la kolin cusku di'e > (This posting has no relation to my previous suggestion, which > seems now to be a blind alley in the developing discussion) Blind alley??? You had a place structure that agreed with the one proposed by lojbab, which John also approved, what blind alley? ------- > cukta x1 is a book/physical volume containing matter/work/text x2 on > medium x3 (not necessarily bound paper, but a physical object) ------- > I think the concentration on 'textual' is a mistake. Unless 'cukta' > is going to mean 'selpapri' (and the consensus seems to be that > it isn't) it should certainly include such things as multi-media > CD ROM encyclopaedias - all of which (so far) contain some text, > but it is hard to maintain for some of them that they are > primarily textual. Your definition doesn't seem to give that much emphasis to text. In any case, I think the structure is right. The details of what type of works are encompassed by x2 are secondary. I agree with John that this (with your wording or lojbab's) is the Right Thing. Jorge