Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pZRgO-0000PdC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 00:03 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0622; Thu, 24 Feb 94 00:00:22 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0619; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 00:00:19 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5582; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 22:59:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 16:58:23 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: Quantifiers (was: cukta) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199402172025.AA04679@nfs2.digex.net> from "i.alexander.bra0125@oasis.icl.co.uk" at Feb 17, 94 06:30:15 pm Content-Length: 878 Lines: 21 mi pu cusku di'e > > It does and it doesn't, because in the context "da poi ... da" the second > > use of "da" has been restricted by the "poi". So "poi" really sets a > > domain, rather than selecting a subset. "ro da poi" = "all-of those-things > > in-domain". la .i,n. cusku di'e > I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making between setting > a domain and selecting a subset - "all-of those-things in-domain" is > a subset of "all-of those-things". Saying "re le nanmu" selects a subset, in fact a 2-set, of the men-I-have-in- mind, but "le nanmu" thereafter does not carry the selection with it. The use of "poi", however, does not merely select a subset, but sets up a pervasive restriction on the meaning of the sumti so restricted. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.