Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pX1xM-0000PgC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:11 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1152; Thu, 17 Feb 94 06:30:12 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1149; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 06:30:12 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8880; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 05:29:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 12:05:07 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Place structures with {co} X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199402152006.AA02034@nfs1.digex.net> from "Jorge Llambias" at Content-Length: 963 Lines: 24 la xorxes. cusku di'e > Something else I just realized: > > We need a convention for what {vo'a}, {vo'e}, etc. mean when used > in a bridi whose selbri is a co-type tanru. I vote for them to > refer to the tertanru places only, and not to the unmeritoriously :) > promoted places of the seltanru. > > Also, what are the places of {go'i} and co. when refering to that > bridi? I also think they should be only those of the tertanru. Can't do it. The vo'a-series and the go'a-series refer to the places >of the selbri as a whole<, independent of how that place structure was acquired. The place structure of a tanru is normally that of its rightmost brivla. (The exception is that places preceding a "co"-based selbri are specially treated, and may belong to a different brivla). The tertanru, i.e. modificand, is not specially privileged. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.