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Date:         Sat, 12 Mar 1994 20:23:35 -0500
Reply-To:     Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>
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From:         Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>
Subject:      Re: The Mad Proposals
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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UC> If Jorge's proposals really are to be put to the vote
UC> it ought to be established beforehand to what extent Lojbab and John
UC> --More--
UC> Cowan are willing to carry them out.

And.  Bob and John Cowan may be the most influential members of the community,
but we are committed to listen to that community.  If there were extremely
strong demand from the net-based community, I would feel obligated to consult
with the off-net community, at least to determine whether there is any grounds
for consensus.  In effect, what I know I hold, though, is about a half dozen
key non-netters whose default vote is 'no' to everything.  No change will
be approved by a simple majority at this point, so that means that a real
strong consensus needs to emerge among the netters before it will carry
weight with the non-netters.  If that strong consensus were to emerge, Cowan
and I would probably then decide how we 'vote', and that will carry much
weight with the non-netters if we believe a change is worthy enough to back
it at this late date, knowuing that we have to read and verify a couple of
megabytes of already-written langauge description before we can publish,
ot make sure that any adopted change is fully incorporated.  For changes like
the Mad Proposals, I suspect this would cause major examination of the
existingf language description because the connectives are so strongly
findamental to the language as it is designed and has been actually used.
A simple global search-and-replace will not do.

lojbab