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Date:         Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:32:17 EST
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From:         Jorge Llambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Mad Proposals
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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Here's an assessment of the amount of work that the changes would require,
considering the grammar papers, the lessons and the text in the ftp site.
The only significant work would be in the rewriting of the connectives paper.

I) For lojban text. This is based on the approx 260 kilobytes of text
from the ftp archive.

Change:         To:             Number of appearances:

gi'a            gija            4
gi'e            gije            235
gi'i            giji            0
gi'o            gijo            2
gi'u            giju            3

gu'a...gi       jagu...gu       0
gu'e...gi       jegu...gu       0
gu'i...gi       jigu...gu       0
gu'o...gi       jogu...gu       1
gu'u...gi       jugu...gu       0

ga              jagi            2
ge              jegi            17
ge'i            jigi            0
go              jogi            4
gu              jugi            1

je'i            ji              1

ji              ku ji           0

Total number of changes: 270, or approximately one per kilobyte.
(Many of the files contain English translations as well, so
probably two per kilobyte is closer. It's mostly a mechanical
change anyway)

I don't know how much is the total amount of text in existence, but
updating it to these changes should be very easy.


II) The lessons.

GAs, GUhAs, GIhAs and {ji} are never mentioned in the lessons, although {gi'e}
is used five times in the Lojban version of section titles.

{je'i} is used in lessson02 to show the difference in pronunciation
between {je}, {jei} and {je'i}.

Thus, the only change the lessons would require is in five titles.


III) The grammar papers (other than the connectives paper).

GUhAs: appear in a paragraph in the "plgs" paper

GAs: a paragraph in the "mex" paper
     a paragraph in the "negation" paper
     an example in the "places" paper

GIhAs: mentioned in "places", "pro", "sumti" and "tense" papers

ji:  one example in "plgs" paper

je'i:  one example in "tense" paper

In addition, all the question connectives are treated in "text", so
that paragraph would need modification.

A few more changes than in the lessons, but it can probably be done in
a couple of hours.

IV) The connectives paper.

Many sections would have to be rewritten, but mostly to simplify it. I think
 this is
the only real work that would be required.


I don't know if there is any other documentation that would require changes,
I don't think the brochure and introductory texts go into enough detail to
mention GAs, GIhAs and GUhAs, but in any case, it's easy to change if they do.

I don't think that the amount of work would be such a big problem, but maybe
I'm misssing some part.


Jorge