Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pesQ0-0000R2C; Thu, 10 Mar 94 23:37 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7072; Thu, 10 Mar 94 23:35:33 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7071; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 23:35:32 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5395; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:34:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:35:29 EST Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: The Mad Proposals X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1543 Lines: 38 And (and this time it is him, I double-checked) says: > > You do have a vote, like every Lojbanist, and your vote is duly noted. > > I'm very pleased to have a vote, of course, but by what right do I > have one? Presumably anyone is a Lojbanist who wants to be, and anyone Your problem stems from a faulty egalitarian assumption. "Everybody has a vote" in no way implies "everybody's vote has equal weight". This is the tally on the proposal so far: In number of votes: 4 in favour - 3 against. In weight: 0.31 in favour - 300 against. As you can see, you may vote safely without fearing that it will count unduly. (The .01 contribution is my own vote, in case anyone wants to know.) The outcome of the vote is only to give a feeling to those who will decide for what others think. You don't have to worry about those without net access, I've been informed that they're conservatives by default, so they are counted as well. The above is of course tongue-in-cheek, but that's more or less how it works, and how it should work. Your vote _is_ duly noted (as your respondant says, I presume it was lojbab?) and will have an influence, but it won't be the deciding vote. (All this is my interpretation, BTW, not official policy or anything like that.) The most likely outcome is that nothing will change, but one can always hope. Jorge (There's an updated version of the proposal coming soon, because there is a possible reason for one of the changes to be not completely satisfactory. Watch this space for more details soon.)