Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pfEVi-0000R2C; Fri, 11 Mar 94 23:12 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1435; Fri, 11 Mar 94 23:12:33 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1432; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 23:12:33 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4451; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 22:11:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 21:07:35 GMT Reply-To: Matthew Faupel Sender: Lojban list From: Matthew Faupel Subject: "late" X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 819 Lines: 19 After sending that previous post I vaguely remembered the concept of "late" being used in one of the texts in the lessons. It was (in The Date), and the translation used there is "ca lo lerci cacra"; literally, "simultaneous with a late hour". I discovered "lerci" in the gismu list before asking the question in the previous post, but concluded that it meant "late" as in "late delivery". It seems to me that "late" meaning "at an hour somewhere vaguely between 9.00pm and 4.00am" and "late" meaning "delayed; after the expected time" are two different concepts (saying "We met at a late hour" doesn't imply that the hour was delayed in arriving :-) So, is there a link between these two meanings that I'm missing? If not, which "late" is "lerci", and how should the other "late" be expressed? Cheers, Matthew