From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 04:41:54 1994 Message-Id: <199404130841.AA22116@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Wed Apr 13 04:41:54 1994 Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: Once again... To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO Jorge: ++++> Again, I believe MOIs don't do MEXs. I like {za'upamoi nu mi tcidu}, but if we want to get picky, the claim is not exactly the same, because I'm not claiming that I'm reading, but rather that something is an event of my reading. >++++++ Sorry, wasn't thinking. Does za'upa mean 'one more'? I would have taken it to mean 'more than one', parallel with su'opa. We really do need the grammar of generalised PA to be tied down We talked about it at Bradford Lojfest, but not very conclusively). I agree that if you want to be picky they are different, but I am always pleased when somebody uses a na'o lojbo pe'i expression like observative NU. Interesting question: xu ro bu'a zo'u go bu'a gi nu bu'a If so then the truth values are the same and the difference is purely pragmatic. Colin