Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0pr9aU-00005NC; Wed, 13 Apr 94 21:22 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2190; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:21:18 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2188; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:21:06 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1730; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:16:46 +0200 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:17:04 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Once again... X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199404122127.AA15993@nfs1.digex.net> from "Jorge Llambias" at Apr 12, 94 04:09:17 pm Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 32 la kolin. cusku di'e > > You missed the one that started it, > > mi su'ipaxei tcidu la xorxes. cusku di'e > I think you can't have VUhUs with ROI. {su'orexei} or {za'upaxei} should work, > but I don't see any way to get the number "one more". Jorge is right, we can't do MEX expressions inside tenses, because that would make the preparser grammar too complicated (tenses are always compounded by the preparser). Furthemore, "su'ipa" doesn't mean what Colin seems to think: it's just the forethought form (+ 1), i.e. 1. To say "one more", we need something like "pa su'i no'o", one plus the typical value in this context. > Again, I believe MOIs don't do MEXs. There is a kludge for this: me li [me'u] : ti me li re su'i re boi [me'u] moi le'i ratcu That is the (2+2)th rat [of the set I have in mind]. Either the "boi" or the "me'u" can be elided, but not both, as the consecutive appearance of "re" and "moi" fools the compounder into seeing "li re su'i remoi" which doesn't parse. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.